TMC March 27, 2026

The Metals Company Q4 2025 Earnings Call - U.S. permitting momentum fuels Brownsville processing push and Hidden Gem commissioning timeline

Summary

The Metals Company used this update to push a single narrative, regulatory clarity equals commercial runway. Management flagged a strategic pivot to the U.S. Deep Seabed Hard Mineral Resources Act, a consolidated NOAA application now deemed substantially compliant, and an expectation of a commercial recovery permit within 12 months. That regulatory progress underpins parallel moves: commercial terms with Allseas for the Hidden Gem system, site control and feasibility work for a potential 12 million tpa processing hub at the Port of Brownsville, and the addition of Mariana Minerals to accelerate onshore metallurgical and AI-driven feasibility work.

The balance sheet is modest but steady, with year-end cash of $117.6 million and liquidity around $154 million including credit lines. Q4 2025 showed a wider net loss due to accelerated share-based compensation and higher G&A, but free cash outflows remain manageable. The firm leans heavily on the premise that U.S. political will, potential government support, and a first-mover technical position will re-rate a market cap trading far below the company�s published project NPVs and reserves. The next 12 months will be proof time: permit grant, finalized Allseas deal, Brownsville feasibility outputs, and the start of long-lead equipment procurement.

Key Takeaways

  • Company pivoted from ISA to U.S. regulatory regime under the Deep Seabed Hard Mineral Resources Act (DSHMRA) and President Trump�s executive order, positioning the U.S. as the primary jurisdiction for its development.
  • TMC submitted the first consolidated NOAA application under the revised permitting process, which was deemed substantially compliant; management expects grant of the commercial recovery permit within 12 months.
  • Consolidated application expands expected commercial recovery area from 25,000 sq km to approximately 65,000 sq km.
  • TMC says it remains the only seabed mineral developer with SEC-compliant mineral reserves, and published PFS/initial assessment NPVs total $23.6 billion ($5.5B + $18.1B).
  • Agreement in principle on key commercial terms with Allseas to develop and operate the Hidden Gem nodule collection system, designed for nominal 3 million wet tonnes per annum using 2 collectors and a transfer vessel.
  • Company is targeting system commissioning in Q4 2027, with a two-collector operating model; management also referenced early 2028 as the initial production ramp timing for the first collector.
  • TMC secured exclusive right over a potential lease option at the Port of Brownsville, Texas, and is running pre-feasibility/BFS work for a 12 million tpa nodule processing industrial park.
  • Mariana Minerals has been added to the owners team to fast-track onshore feasibility and metallurgical processing work using AI and software approaches; Hatch is refreshing the PFS for Brownsville, with a full study targeted by end of October.
  • Company argues processed domestically, nodules could address U.S. supply dependency across four key metals and create an onshore counter to China�s refining dominance, but federal support will be required.
  • Environmental work: EIA/EIS nearing completion, informed by what TMC describes as the largest environmental dataset in history (over a petabyte and 15 years of research); company has begun public outreach on key findings.
  • Financials: year-end 2025 cash $117.6 million; expected March 31, 2026 cash approximately $110 million; liquidity (cash plus unsecured borrowing capacity) ~ $162M year-end and ~$154M by end of March 2026.
  • Q4 2025 net loss was $40.4 million ($0.08 per share), up from $16.1 million a year earlier, driven by higher G&A ($34.1M) and increased share-based compensation; free cash outflow Q4 was $11.5M and FY outflow $43.1M.
  • Balance sheet activity: $85.2M from Korea Zinc investment, $41.2M from other registered direct offerings (including Hess family), $14.8M ATM proceeds, $27M from option/warrant exercises; portion used to repay Allseas working capital loan and Ares draw.
  • Accounts payable and accruals include $34M owed to Allseas, majority of which can be settled in equity; royalty liability rose by $131M due to higher fair value after August 2025 economic studies.
  • The Metals Royalty Company (TMCR) will begin trading on Nasdaq under ticker TMCR; TMCR holds a 2% gross royalty on the Nori area, TMC retains right to repurchase up to 75% and a 25% equity stake.
  • Management highlighted industry alignment toward the U.S. framework with more than 10 applications in the NOAA system, and said inbound interest suggests potential collaboration and services for other license holders.
  • Company spent over $700 million and conducted hundreds of research days at sea to build its environmental and technical data foundation, which management cites as a competitive moat.
  • Long-lead engineering items for Hidden Gem are underway with Allseas, including riser, launch and recovery systems, and the umbilical; converted drill ships are viewed as a pragmatic option for additional vessels.
  • TMC joined the Defense Industrial Base Consortium, positioning the company for potential DoD collaboration and emphasizing the dual-use and strategic importance of critical minerals.

Full Transcript

Operator: Thank you for standing by. Welcome to The Metals Company fourth quarter 2025 corporate update conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Craig Shesky. Please go ahead, sir.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: Thank you very much. Please note that during this call, certain statements made by the company will be forward-looking and based on management’s beliefs and assumptions from information available at this time. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, many of which may be beyond our control. Additionally, please note that the company’s actual results may differ materially from those anticipated and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. Our remarks today may also include non-GAAP financial measures, including with respect to free cash flows. Additional details regarding these non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, can be found in our slide deck being used with this call. You’re welcome to follow along with our slide deck or if joining us by phone, you can access it at any time at investors.metals.co.

I’d now like to turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Gerard Barron. Gerard, please go ahead.

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Thank you, Craig, and apologies to those on the line who we’re a few minutes late. We’re waiting for our wire to cross the line. But a welcome to you all. Before we get to the path forward, I’d like to take a moment to reflect on our journey over the last year. One year ago, to the day, in our fourth quarter earnings call, we announced a regulatory pivot that fundamentally changed our company’s destiny. Instead of the uncertainty and gridlock of the ISA, we chose the certainty and clarity of the U.S. regulatory regime built upon a long-established legal framework under DSHMRA and catalyzed by the political will of this administration.

In April, this political will was made evident by President Trump’s executive order unleashing America’s offshore critical minerals and resources, which marked America’s return to leadership in deep seabed minerals. Some of the directives in this EO have already been delivered, including the modernization of the NOAA.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: Gerard, sorry to interrupt. Your line is cutting in and out.

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: New roadmap for 2026. In 2026, we focused on accelerated execution, starting with permitting. Our consolidated application submitted to NOAA in January this year has been deemed substantially compliant, and we expect our permit to be granted in less than one year from today. This permitting clarity also provides confidence to us and our partners to get building in anticipation of commercial production. Offshore, we have reached commercial agreement on key terms with our long-term strategic partner, Allseas, and continue to progress the engineering work for the long lead items for our forthcoming production system. We expect this agreement to be finalized in the coming days. Onshore, it’s also clear that the U.S. wants to dominate the onshore processing and refining of polymetallic nodules, establishing a counter to China’s stranglehold on the production of critical minerals.

To do that will require support from the government itself. Securing the requisite permitting is a key enabler. I’m pleased to have secured a site at the Port of Brownsville and have also reached agreement with our partner, Mariana Minerals, to progress this feasibility work as part of the TMC owners’ team. More on this shortly. Since day one, we knew success would depend on building a bench of exceptional partners with the expertise to tackle complex challenges and the conviction to back a new industry. As this chart shows, we’ve brought together a strong group of experienced partners across the value chain, each bringing a unique skill set to our vision of reimagining the metals and mining sector. What’s changed and what matters is momentum. Many of our existing partners have deepened their commitments, reinforcing their belief in the long-term opportunity.

We’re also welcoming new partners who share our belief that this industry will be built in the United States. That growing alignment is a clear validation of where this industry is heading. As I mentioned earlier, we’ve agreed key commercial terms with Allseas to complete the development and operate the Hidden Gem offshore system, the first ever commercial nodule collection system. The continued strategic alliance, which will be memorialized in the coming days, brings together all these decades of offshore execution expertise with our proven resource, environmental and processing platform into a single integrated system designed for a nominal capacity of 3 million wet tonnes per annum using the Hidden Gem, 2 collector vehicles and a vessel to transfer nodules to bulk carriers for shipment to shore. Allseas are currently working on key long lead items like the riser, our launch and recovery systems, and the umbilical.

We look forward to signing this definitive agreement in the coming days and continue to progress towards system commissioning, still targeted for Q4 2027. One of the key actions outlined in last year’s executive order was the directives for various government agencies to identify potential sources of financial support for this industry. In order to unlock government support for onshore processing, there are a few boxes we must tick, including a site-specific plan and feasibility studies. To that end, back in December last year, we secured an exclusive right over a potential lease option in the Port of Brownsville, Texas, near where plans have been recently announced by this administration for the first new U.S. oil refinery in decades, underscoring the border momentum behind strengthening American industrial capacity.

We’ve developed a preliminary master plan and a pre-feasibility study is already underway for a 12 million ton per annum nodule industrial park. Of course, existing capital like tolling options are still available to us, and we’ll not be committing any capital at this time. I’m certainly excited about what a domestic nodule processing hub can mean for both new partnerships and for our project economics. Processed domestically, our nodule resource could single-handedly solve the American supply chain dependency across four key metals. As I mentioned, one of the requirements to unlocking funding, one is the preparation of a feasibility study for a processing plant at a specific site. To that end, we’re adding a new strategic partner to our bench in Mariana Minerals.

Mariana CEO Turner Caldwell Steene speaking at last year’s Strategy Day is someone we know well from his time at Tesla, where he headed up global battery metal supply. The Mariana team are pioneers of AI and software approaches to project development and metallurgical processing and have demonstrated their ability to fast-track project execution, which enabled Tesla to build its lithium plant in Texas in less than two years. The Mariana team will be joining as part of the TMC owners team, and we already enjoy a good working relationship with their team. Mariana’s approach is core to how cutting-edge businesses like SpaceX and others operate. With AI, we think they can move even faster and believe their innovative model offers a faster, more modern approach to reindustrialization.

Subject to further definitive agreements, we look forward to exploring how their systems could reduce permitting and construction timelines for a domestic plant while reducing OpEx and increasing recovery of payable metals. In fact, right after this call, our team, executive team will convene in Texas with the Mariana team for the next week to progress this mission-critical work, which is also a prerequisite for a certain U.S. involvement. I’m also pleased to share that in April, just days away, The Metals Royalty Company will begin trading on the Nasdaq under the ticker TMCR. A quick refresher, formed with the goal of onshoring critical minerals production in the U.S. TMCR has a 2% gross royalty on our Nori area, resulting from an agreement we signed with Low Carbon Royalties in 2023.

We retain the right to repurchase up to 75% of that royalty over time at a capped return, which could potentially reduce the royalty to just 0.5%. TMC also maintains a 25% equity stake in TMCR. Many TMCR faces will be familiar to our followers, including the current and former board members Michael Hess and Brian Paes-Braga. With their backing and a strong team behind them, we see TMCR as a strategic vehicle which can potentially provide future options for capital and sizable project finance. I’d now like to turn the call over to Craig to discuss some industry updates, our regulatory path ahead, and our financials.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: Thanks, Gerard. One quick note that we shared actually in recent weeks on our social accounts. We recently joined the Defense Industrial Base Consortium, DIBC, a partnership within the Department of Defense’s manufacturing expansion and investment prioritization directorate, reflecting growth of our capabilities. This initiative gives the government the tools it needs to provide with commercial solutions that can help close supply chain vulnerabilities and strengthen the defense industrial base. Of course, critical minerals and seabed are focused for the U.S. and allies. Over the past year, we’ve seen investors and operators effectively vote with their feet, gravitating toward regulatory frameworks that offer clarity and a credible path to commercialization. While the ISA remains in gridlock, the U.S. has emerged as a leading jurisdiction, and certain allies are relying upon the U.S. and certain areas of expertise to develop seabed resources.

This shift is being echoed at the government level. While in March, the U.S. and Japan announced a new critical minerals action plan with an explicit focus on accelerating cooperation on commercially viable deep sea mining. Against this backdrop, we remain the only seabed mineral developer with SEC-compliant mineral reserves, which is the clearest definition of commercial viability, positioning us at the forefront of this emerging industry. In January, NOAA finalized revisions to accelerate permitting under the Deep Seabed Hard Mineral Resources Act, introducing a consolidated application process that meaningfully streamlines the path to commercial recovery. TMC moved quickly to take advantage of that clarity, submitting the first consolidated application under this new framework. This application expands our expected commercial recovery area from 25,000 sq km to approximately 65,000 sq km and is designed to significantly reduce permitting timelines.

Importantly, it reflects the strength of our technical readiness and our ability to meet NOAA requirements for commercial scale operations. We see this as a clear signal that the U.S. regulatory path is active, predictable, and capable of supporting responsible development. Now with more than 10 applications in the system, it is evident that the broader industry is aligning around the U.S. framework. The last time we updated you, we were progressing systematically through the NOAA permitting pathway, and that remains the case today, even under this new consolidated path. With the consolidated application now active under NOAA’s new rule, we have greater clarity on the process ahead and a clear line of sight on the key milestones required for final approval.

Our experience over the last year, particularly through NOAA’s review of our exploration licenses, has provided valuable insight into the process and expectations for both TMC USA and NOAA. We announced on March 9 that we passed the first of these milestones with NOAA determining our application to be substantially compliant, and the next potential milestone being full compliance. Based on this progress and what we’ve learned, we now expect the grant of our commercial recovery permit within the next 12 months. Now, to get to this point, it’s taken over $700 million and hundreds of research days at sea. We are now nearing the completion of our environmental impact statement, and our EIA is complete.

Informed by the largest environmental data set in history, over a petabyte in size, this comprehensive document reflects 15 years of scientific research conducted alongside leading institutions and demonstrates our ability to responsibly collect nodules using modern systems designed to maximize efficiency while minimizing environmental impact. Put simply, better science leads to better design, and better design leads to better environmental impacts. For those with a keen eye on our social media, you may have noticed that we’ve begun sharing key findings from our EIA publicly during a new video series, highlighting how our data addresses environmental concerns and how innovation has reduced our environmental footprint. I encourage you all to check this out, and you can click on the PDF of this posted on our website to get to those videos directly, or we encourage you to follow TMC on our social accounts, including Twitter and LinkedIn.

We look forward to our EIS being made available for public comment soon as per NOAA’s transparent and accountable process. As many of you know, and there may be some on the call who are with us in the room, we published a pre-feasibility study and initial assessment alongside our strategy day in New York last August. Covering our first production area, the PFS documented world-first reserves for a nodule project demonstrating clear commercial viability. Our initial assessments covered everything else that you see in royal blue among our contract areas on this page. Keep in mind that neither of these comprehensive studies, which were signed off by multiple independent qualified persons, cover additional ground over which we now have priority right through the U.S. process. This is represented in the lighter gray on this page.

Given the proximity of these areas to those covered in our published technical studies, we do believe that these areas support significant exploration upside. Our current metal prices shifting to project economics, it’s clear that these projects are incredibly valuable. If you combine the $5.5 billion net present value of a pre-feasibility study and the $18.1 billion NPV for the initial assessment, you arrive at a total estimated resource of $23.6 billion. Over the life of both projects on an undiscounted basis, the studies outline revenue of approximately $369 billion, EBITDA in excess of $200 billion, and a position in the first quartile of the cost curve as laid out in our PFS.

However, despite the clear value of this high quality and abundant resource and our expected low-cost positioning, our valuation does remain below that of comparable peer developers and explorers. On the left side of this page, you’ll see a TMC valuation example, where we’re trading at about 8% of our underlying net present value, well below peer averages for explorers and developers, and certainly below the average of nearly 1x NAV for nickel and copper producers. As we march toward a clear permitting path and commercial production, we are looking forward to a significant re-rating in this valuation story. On to liquidity. TMC reported year-end 2025 cash balance of $117.6 million, and we expect at month-end for March 31, 2026 to report approximately $110 million in cash.

TMC liquidity defined as cash plus borrowing capacity on our unsecured credit facility stood at $162 million at year-end 2025 and is expected to be approximately $154 million around month-end March 31, 2026. This means we have no imminent need to raise funds in the public markets. As discussed in our last several quarterly conference calls, however, we are filing a new Form S-3 shelf registration statement in conjunction with our upcoming 10-K as a matter of good corporate housekeeping, and we do intend at some point in the future to refresh our ATM. However, there has been no ATM use by the company since April 2025. Onto our financial results.

In the fourth quarter of 2025, TMC reported a net loss of $40.4 million or $0.08 per share, compared to a net loss of $16.1 million or $0.04 per share for the same period in 2024. The net loss for the fourth quarter of 2025 included exploration and evaluation expenses of $10.6 million versus $8.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2024, general and administrative expenses, or G&A, of $34.1 million versus $8.1 million G&A in the comparable quarter last year, and a credit of $4.3 million from other non-operating items versus a credit of $0.3 million from other non-operating items in Q4 2024.

Exploration and evaluation expenses increased by $2.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to the same period in 2024, primarily resulting from an increase in share-based compensation due to accelerated amortization of awards granted in the third quarter of 2025, partially offset by lower mining, technological and process development costs resulting from decreased engineering work. G&A expenses increased by $26 million in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to the same period in 2024, reflecting an increase in share-based compensation due to the accelerated amortization of awards granted to directors and officers in the third quarter of 2025 and an increase in legal, consulting, and personnel costs.

Other non-operating items that reduced the net loss in Q4 2025 included higher interest income generated from our increased cash balances and a gain resulting from the dilution of our ownership interest in The Metals Royalty Company as it completed a private placement to third parties at a price well in excess of book value. On free cash flow. The free cash outflow for the fourth quarter of 2025 was $11.5 million, compared to $13.8 million for the fourth quarter of 2024.

Net cash used in operating activities was $11.4 million compared to $13.8 million for the fourth quarter of 2024, primarily due to lower personnel and environmental payments, coupled with the interest earned on the higher cash balance in 2025 and partially offset by higher legal payments. Focusing on a full year basis for the cash flow. On a full year basis, free cash outflow for 2025 was $43.1 million, compared to $44 million in 2024. Net cash used in operating activities was $42.9 million compared to $43.5 million in 2024, reflecting lower environmental and mining technological payments and interest earned on the higher cash balance in 2025, partially offset by higher underutilization fees paid on the unsecured credit facilities, timing of payment on regulatory fees, and higher legal payments.

Free cash flow is a non-GAAP measure, and I would point you to the non-GAAP reconciliation included in this slide deck. We believe that our cash on hand will be sufficient to meet our working capital and capital expenditure requirements for at least the next 12 months from today. Looking at the balance sheet over the course of 2025, there was a significant increase in the cash balance as the following funds were received: $85.2 million from the Korea Zinc investment, $41.2 million from other registered direct offerings, including the Hess family investment, $14.8 million from ATM use, and $27 million from the exercise of various stock options and warrants.

A portion of these proceeds was used to repay the $7.5 million Allseas working capital loan, along with other outstanding interest thereon, as well as a $4.3 million draw on the Ares unsecured credit facility. Our accounts payable and accrued liabilities as at December 31, 2025 was $46 million and includes $34 million owed to Allseas for various services provided, the majority of which can be settled in equity. The $131 million increase in royalty liability was the result of the change in fair value following the company’s release of two economic studies in August 2025, which increased the value of the Nori project. The significant increase in the warrant liability over 2025 was due to the increase in the fair value of private warrants, which reflected the significant increase in our share price.

With that, operator, we’d now like to open the call up for some Q&A.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and two follow-ups. One moment for our first question. Our first question will come from the line of Heiko Ihle with H.C. Wainwright & Co. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Heiko Ihle, Equity Research Analyst, H.C. Wainwright & Co.: Hey there. Can you guys hear me all right? Good morning.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: Good morning, Heiko. Yes, we can.

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Good morning, Heiko. Yeah.

Heiko Ihle, Equity Research Analyst, H.C. Wainwright & Co.: I’m very intrigued by those negotiations for the nodule processing and refining hub in Brownsville. Obviously, given recent geopolitical risk factors that have just been, you know, going up quite a bit and just in general uncertainties that are going on, I think this might be quite interesting. Couple of things on that. Can you walk us through what you see on an impact with shipping expenses if this Brownsville hub goes ahead? And maybe quantify it.

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Sure. Look, there are many exciting options about bringing material straight to the U.S., and shipping is one of them. Energy costs, of course, is another, because the biggest input into our cost base when we process nodules is energy. You know, we applaud this administration for realizing that, you know, abundant energy leads to prosperity. There’s no better example of that than the U.S. compared to, you know, some other markets, you know. It’s our estimate that you can actually process nodules cheaper in the south where we’ve located, Brownsville, Texas, compared to China or Indonesia or Japan because of energy costs. Shipping is also better as well. It does mean having to bring them through the Panama Canal, and you know, it will also.

You know, the site we’ve chosen does have some deep water berths available to it. They won’t take the biggest ships that are available and that we’d like to use, but in time we think they can. But no firm numbers, but improvements to be made.

Heiko Ihle, Equity Research Analyst, H.C. Wainwright & Co.: Yeah. Okay. Fair. I know it’s early, but you may not even have all these answers yet. Can you walk me through key permits and timelines you think we need to build all this infrastructure, please?

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: It’s important to note, Heiko, too, I mean, what we’re beginning here is site-specific feasibility work. At the same time, what I can say is that the particular site we’re looking at does have many permits.

Heiko Ihle, Equity Research Analyst, H.C. Wainwright & Co.: Okay.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: We continue to have, you know, continued discussions, very positive discussions with Greg Abbott’s office in Texas and other agencies there. But it’s important to note a lot of this is going to be, you know, for a prerequisite of us making plans and moving forward, going to be dependent on some of the support we get at the federal level. So really the key permit here is the grant of a commercial recovery permit by NOAA. Certainly when we’re talking to, you know, various agencies and cabinet departments, it is that permit that would unlock, we think a lot of the support and potential investment for a facility like this.

One of the reasons I think that you’re seeing TMC engage in some of this work on feasibility, as well as us alongside our partner, Allseas, progressing engineering work, and beginning to think about ordering these long lead time items is due to our confidence in the grant of that commercial recovery permit in a timely manner.

Heiko Ihle, Equity Research Analyst, H.C. Wainwright & Co.: Fair enough. Okay. I’ll get back in queue. Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Matthew O’Keefe with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Matthew O’Keefe, Equity Research Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald: Thanks, operator. Morning, gents. Yeah, just a question I wanna follow up on Heiko’s Texas question there. You are working on a feasibility study there. It sounds like Mariana is gonna be a part of that. What’s the timing on getting that done? And will we get to see sort of the results of that?

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Yeah. Sure. Well, certainly Mariana will be playing an important role as part of our owners team. We already have Hatch working on the refresh of that of the PFS, which is based on, you know, bringing all those numbers to a Brownsville site. We anticipate that’ll be ready very soon. We also anticipate well before the end of the year having a, I guess in the old language, a BFS on what we’re planning to put on the ground in Texas. The date that is being talked about is end of October, and so not far away. You know, we certainly expect Hatch and others to be involved in that as well.

Matthew O’Keefe, Equity Research Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald: Okay. That’s a good group. Is that going to be a hydromet facility or are you going to look at an option of doing sort of the RKEF front end like you’re gonna be doing in Japan?

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: That’s the exciting part. For the last since in fact Dr. Jeffrey Donald joined our group and pivoted us back to more of a pyro front end, you know, that’s where we’ve been building lots of expertise on how we get, you know, raw nodules into those intermediate products. The plan is to build the pyro in Brownsville, you know, if we were to go down that pathway. We’re very fortunate that we have an amazing technical partner in Japan that we continue to have a great working relationship with. But boy, a nickel refinery, a nickel processing plant hasn’t been built in 80 years yet here in America, yet the demand for nickel is going, you know, at an increasing clip. You know, we know it’s needed to make every ton of stainless steel.

We know it’s used in super alloys. We know it’s used across AI and data centers and military uses and electrification. The uses and the demand for it is going up, yet we import 100% of our nickel. You know, something’s not kind of a fit there, Matt. There’s an opportunity, I guess. We just see that this might be that moment where the administration says, "Yeah, we wanna fix that problem," you know.

Matthew O’Keefe, Equity Research Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald: Yeah. No, for sure. That’s why I was kinda asking. It seems like a pretty exciting turn, and would love to see the numbers on that. More on that. Just switching off the processing back to the recovery. You said you’re sort of getting long lead time items. I’m assuming for Hidden Gem or and the whole that whole process. So what would you anticipate, assuming you get your permit, you know, within 12 months, what would you anticipate the timing to get Hidden Gem back on the water? And do you foresee it being as is or with additional collector capacity?

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Yeah. We are still standing by our guidance of commissioning Q4 next year. It will. We’ve elected to run with a two collector model. So that basically gives us the opportunity to get ours out on the water. I guess that’ll be early 2028. We’ll kick off with one collector in production, but we’ll soon move to a second collector being in production as well. You know, as you well know, we have a production boat that is production ready now, just on a production number that’s not high enough. We wanna see a higher production number because the more tons you amortize over the cost of the floating steel above, the better the economics.

Matthew O’Keefe, Equity Research Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald: Yeah

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: I think we proved in 2022 that, you know, we can do this reliably at commercial scale. Now it’s about making money.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: It’s important to note that too, you know, the connective tissue for, you know, the ramp up offshore, but then also what the potential processing and refining plans might be onshore. You know, certainly this administration wants to be able to say, you know, if we can bring this back domestically, you know, it’s helpful to be able to do it during this administration. The way you do that is ramp up in, you know, relatively bite-sized amounts, starting, let’s say, with production capacity that could handle nodules coming from a vessel like the Hidden Gem, which has 3 million tons per annum nominal capacity.

Kind of matching as best we can ramp up for both the offshore production and then having a home for the processing and refining of those nodules is certainly, you know, part of the work that we and our team of engineers are doing in the coming months.

Matthew O’Keefe, Equity Research Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald: Right. If I may just ask one more question. On the permitting process, not so much the process, you’ve made that pretty clear. Under the NOAA process, there is an additional piece of ground that wasn’t covered by the PFS, it wasn’t covered by the initial assessment that you’ve added. I’m just curious sort of why and you know what your plans are for that. I mean, can you really do any work on that in the near term? Yeah, is it infringing on anyone else’s claims that might be under the previous permanent regime?

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Yeah. Look, it was just a natural fit, you know? It was fitting between two blocks that we had hold over. At the end of the day, we will, while we’re out there, continue to, you know, take observations of that. I guess what we’ll aim to prove, it’s a continuous piece of ground, and it doesn’t require any particular environmental work done on it. We imagine that once production starts out there that there’ll be more collaboration between some of the license holders as well, you know. I think no doubt there’ll be some people that end up being granted licenses who don’t have production vessels and/or who want help getting their applications through the permitting process.

As you know, we probably know more about that than anyone on this planet. We’re certainly getting a lot of inbound interest in how we might be willing to collaborate with some players. You know, we see this as pre-production. I think it’s. We wanna see more people in production out there. But what I’m pretty certain no one’s planning to do is to put, you know, plans for a processing plant on the ground anywhere. I see a lot of applicants starting to talk about, you know, them being successful at moving to the first phase. We know from that journey there’s a lot of road left in front of them. We’ll be here to help them and maybe supply services to them along the way.

In the meantime, you know, to fully explore just how committed this administration is to bringing, you know, a processing plant so we can bring nodules straight to the USA.

Matthew O’Keefe, Equity Research Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald: Yeah. No, that makes sense. Thanks very much.

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Thanks, Matt.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: I think we’re going to, Michelle, take a few questions, potentially from our chat. So there’s a question from Jake Sekelsky. We mentioned government support is needed for the U.S.-based processing plant. Can we clarify what type of support this means, financial permitting or otherwise? It’s a good question. I think the answer is all of the above. Certainly, as we noted earlier, progressing the commercial recovery permit is the most important prerequisite. We also, of course, would rely upon both at the federal, state, and local levels, what we think are very supportive administrations, to help really, you know, make some of these plans a reality. Again, the prerequisite for a lot of this work is site-specific feasibility work.

Ensuring that we get that right and are doing it at a place like the Port of Brownsville, where we have truly everything that we need to stand up a potential nodule ecosystem. That’s going to be critical in our decision to push forward on this. We do have really the unique ability with this resource of maintaining capital-light options for the processing. It’s not like most ore bodies where you have no choice but to build processing and refining close to where the ore body is. We have flexibility here in the nature of this nodule resource, and that you can collect them and ship them really north, south, east, or west.

It’s the desire of this administration to change the game and kind of release themselves from the stranglehold that China has had on critical metals. To do that, as Gerard noted, it’s not just a TMC story. So we have the resource, and we have the capability to help do this. But we’re making all of the decisions, obviously with the benefit of our shareholders in mind and making sure that we are, you know, not pushing forward on anything without a very non-dilutive financing plan that we expect would be supported by the government, assuming that we would wanna take the next step. There is another question here from Erwin Bollinger. To what extent are your systems being designed or evaluated for dual use capabilities with U.S. defense or autonomous underwater operations?

Gerard, maybe if you wanna weigh in a bit on that too, but it is a good point to raise it. You know, we saw a piece from CNN and Mongabay over the last few weeks that traveled pretty far, noting the fact that Chinese ambitions in this space are focused offshore very much on that dual use capability between some of the military uses for the stuff that they’re working on, along with deep sea mining. One of the interesting things that we’re looking at on the onshore side is the fact that, you know, the flow sheets that we and Hatch and now Mariana are developing and working through, you know, certainly are the types of things that, you know, could lead to processing and refining capabilities that aren’t just limited to nodules over the long term.

Gerard, not sure if you have any other color on that point?

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Look, I think there are some exciting areas for collaboration, and I would not rule them out.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: I see one more question on the Hidden Gem. Looking at sort of the investment or acquisition of a second vessel like the Hidden Gem, what would be planned before that? Who might manufacture it? Who would the partners be on that front?

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Well, you know, taking a converted drill ship and making it fit for picking up nodules proves to be a pretty efficient move. There’s an abundance of those vessels. I saw Transocean recently scrapped 4 of them for, you know, for quite cheap money. That’s an option. You know, we do have inbound inquiries from people who have vessels who would like to use them. Of course, the vessel is the first step. The operator is the important one. Just to be clear, Allseas want to operate more vessels in the CCZ, and we want them to operate more vessels for us in this area.

Obviously there are efficiencies in having similar type vessels from a parts and administration perspective, and so stand by.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: Operator, any other questions on the phone line?

Operator: I’m showing no further questions on the phone lines.

Craig Shesky, Company Representative / Moderator, The Metals Company: Okay. Gerard, perhaps over to you.

Gerard Barron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Metals Company: Well, yeah. Well, thank you, everyone. You know, we’ve got a lot of very long-term shareholders who have been supporting us since I went public in 2021, and of course, before that when we were DeepGreen. You know, it’s exciting to see the direction the business is heading. It was exciting to report some of those updates today. It’s frustrating not being able to give more regular updates, but, you know, we have to be very, you know, sensitive in how we message that. To the team and our partners, thank you for, you know, an enormous heavy lift from everyone who works at TMC. It’s a very dedicated, hardworking team, and it’s an honor to work alongside you all.

To our shareholders, you know, thank you for being there and coming with us on this journey. Look forward to keeping you updated as updates become available. Over and out.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.