III May 8, 2026

Information Services Group Q1 2026 Earnings Call - AI Governance Becomes the New Growth Engine

Summary

ISG delivered a strong first quarter, with revenue reaching $61.2 million and adjusted EBITDA rising 12% to $8.3 million. The company’s AI transformation strategy is no longer theoretical. AI-related revenue hit $21 million, representing a third of total revenue and more than doubling from a year ago. Management highlighted that clients are moving past initial AI pilots into complex governance and cost-optimization needs, creating a clear demand tailwind for ISG’s advisory and research services.

The most significant development is the signing of ISG’s largest-ever deal, a multi-year agreement to govern $300 million in technology spend for a global manufacturer. This contract underscores a broader market shift. As enterprises deploy more AI tools, they are facing unprecedented complexity and compliance risks. ISG is positioning itself as the trusted intermediary to manage this chaos. With Europe surging 25% and recurring revenues growing 9%, the company is executing on a clear path to higher margins and sustained growth through its AI-focused service model.

Key Takeaways

  • AI revenue is accelerating fast. AI-related revenue hit $21 million in Q1, up from $12 million a year ago, now making up roughly one-third of total firm-wide revenue.
  • Margin expansion continues. Adjusted EBITDA grew 12% to $8.3 million, with margins expanding over 100 basis points to 13.5% for the sixth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth.
  • Record-breaking governance deal. ISG signed its largest contract ever, a multi-year agreement valued up to $17 million to govern $300 million in tech spend for a top global manufacturer, spanning up to eight years.
  • Europe is outperforming. The region delivered 25% revenue growth to $17 million, driven by double-digit gains in advisory, software, and governance services across health sciences and consumer sectors.
  • Recurring revenue is climbing. Recurring revenues grew 9% year-over-year, now sitting at approximately 47% of total revenue as the company approaches its 50% target.
  • Mid-market penetration is widening. ISG is successfully targeting the mid-market (companies with $1B to $10B in revenue) by using its AI Maturity Index and Tango platform to solve talent and complexity gaps.
  • AI Index launch provides market structure. The new ISG AI Index tracks infrastructure, software, and managed services, showing hyperscaler infrastructure revenue up 160% since late 2022, validating the underlying AI spend trend.
  • Q2 guidance reflects cautious optimism. ISG is guiding for Q2 revenue between $62.5 million and $63.5 million and adjusted EBITDA between $8 million and $9 million, expecting continued margin expansion.
  • Acquisition integration is on track. The Aiimi acquisition met expectations and is serving as a "tip of the spear" entry point for new AI-focused clients, with the team fully integrated.
  • Balance sheet remains healthy. Cash stood at $22.7 million, with a gross debt-to-EBITDA ratio of under 1.8 times. The company returned $4.3 million to shareholders through dividends and stock buybacks in the quarter.

Full Transcript

Operator: Good morning, welcome to the Information Services Group first quarter 2026 conference call. This call is being recorded, and a replay will be available on ISG’s website within 24 hours. Now I’d like to turn the call over to Mr. Barry Holt for his opening remarks and introductions. Mr. Holt, please go ahead.

Barry Holt, Head of Corporate Communications, Information Services Group (ISG): Thank you, operator. Hello, and good morning. My name is Barry Holt. I am head of corporate communications for ISG. I’d like to welcome everyone to ISG’s first quarter conference call. I’m joined today by Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to read a forward-looking statement. It is important to note that this communication may contain forward-looking statements which represent the current expectations and beliefs of the management of ISG concerning future events and their potential effects. These statements are not guarantees of future results and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated.

For a more detailed listing of the risks and other factors that could affect future results, please refer to the forward-looking statement contained in our Form 8-K that was furnished last night to the SEC and the Risk Factors sections of our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q filings. You should also read ISG’s annual report on Form 10-K and any other relevant documents, including any amendments or supplements to these documents filed with the SEC. You will be able to obtain free copies of any of ISG’s SEC filings on either ISG’s website at www.isg-one.com or the SEC’s website at www.sec.gov. ISG undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement to reflect subsequent events or circumstances.

During this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures which ISG believes improves the comparability of the company’s financial results between periods and provides for a greater transparency of key measures used to evaluate the company’s performance. The non-GAAP measures which we will touch on today include adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net earnings, and the presentation of selected financial data on a constant currency basis. Non-GAAP measures are provided as additional information and should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For the reconciliation of all non-GAAP measures presented to the closely applicable GAAP measure, please refer to our current report on Form 8-K, which was filed last night with the SEC. Now I would like to turn the call over to Michael Connors, who will be followed by Michael A. Sherrick. Mike?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Thank you, Barry Holt, and good morning, everyone. Today, we will review our strong Q1 results, our compelling AI transformation story, our view of the broader demand environment, and our outlook for Q2. ISG had a strong 1st quarter and an excellent start to the year, continuing our momentum. Our Q1 results, both revenue and EBITDA, were at the top end of our guidance. Revenue was $61.2 million, up 3%, led by 25% growth in Europe and 9% growth in recurring revenues, powered by our research, public sector, and governance businesses. In terms of profitability, Q1 marks the 6th quarter in a row that our adjusted EBITDA has grown by double digits.

Versus the prior year, it was up 12% to $8.3 million, and our adjusted EBITDA margin was up more than 100 basis points to 13.5%, fueled by a more profitable business mix and our strong operating discipline. A few comments on our AI transformation story. AI demand continues to accelerate for ISG. In Q1, we delivered $21 million of AI-related revenue, about a third of our firm-wide total. That was up from $12 million a year ago. AI-related revenue includes work where AI is a key part of the client solution, including AI research and insights, AI strategy, sourcing governance, operating model design, business case validation, software, tech provider evaluation, and transformation support. AI and the cost optimization initiatives that fund digital transformation remain leading areas of client investment, and that plays to our strengths.

Apart from AI-driven solutions, we are leveraging AI in our own client delivery model to improve speed, quality, and efficiency, thereby supporting margin expansion over time. Our recently launched ISG AI Index underscores how the AI market continues to develop. Initial spending is concentrated in infrastructure as hyperscalers ramp up capacity to meet demand. Software and platform providers are beginning to monetize their AI capabilities, while managed services is still in the early stages, indicating the larger opportunity remains in front of us. As AI demand rises, so does complexity. It’s in these periods of disruption, especially, that clients turn to ISG for our independent, trusted advice. Each year, we influence more than $200 billion of tech spend. This activity informs our advisors and researchers, expands our benchmarking data, and delivers data-driven insights and recommendations our clients depend on for their AI-powered business transformations.

While AI adoption is still in the early stages, pilots are progressing into broader deployments. We expect this to translate into sustained demand and a growing pipeline of opportunities for ISG. One of the highlights of Q1 was the signing of our largest deal ever, a multi-year agreement valued up to $17 million to provide governance services to a top global manufacturer. Under this landmark contract, ISG will manage $300 million in global technology spend with 200 technology vendors to support a large-scale, multi-year AI-powered transformation. This work is beginning, and we expect to support this client for up to eight years on this AI-centered client initiative. One comment on our ISG Tango. We continue to deliver great value through our proprietary AI-powered next-generation sourcing platform.

More than $27 billion of contract value is flowing through Tango, which is now fully integrated into our workflows and has become integral to our sourcing business. Turning to our regions. The Americas delivered $40 million of revenue in Q1, down about 3% from last year against a tough compare and up 4% sequentially from the fourth quarter. Our current Americas pipeline is robust, and we expect solid year-over-year growth in Q2. During the first quarter, the region saw double-digit growth in research and governance and in our health sciences, insurance, and public sector industry verticals. Key client engagements included Estée Lauder, ExxonMobil, and the State of Arizona. During the quarter, we began work on a $5 million engagement with a leading U.S. healthcare company to deliver technology, cost savings, and AI-driven innovation with the goal of improving patient care.

We are providing a full range of services, including benchmarking, operating model design, sourcing, transition, change management, and governance services. This is one of the largest ever technology transactions in the U.S. healthcare sector, where there is increasing demand to modernize and digitize care, pointing to a great future opportunity for ISG. Within this sector, we continue to deliver a multi-million dollar series of engagements for a global healthcare and medical products company involving sourcing, governance, network, and software. We are also supporting the client’s shift to agentic AI, which we expect will lead to follow-on work as the client accelerates its AI adoption. Our Europe region continued its momentum from the second half of last year with an excellent first quarter.

Revenues were up 25% to $17 million, driven by double-digit growth in our advisory, software, and governance businesses and in our consumer, insurance, and health sciences industry verticals. Key client engagements in Europe in the first quarter included Allianz, Diageo, and BARMER, a leading health insurer in Germany. During the quarter, we won a large engagement worth about $1 million with a welcome-back client, a leading medical technology company. We are supporting a broad range of infrastructure and software initiatives for the client aimed at optimizing cost and adopting AI with room for follow-on opportunities. We also won a $3 million engagement with a leading pharmaceutical company, a new client for the firm. We are delivering software advisory support and executing on an enterprise-wide technology sourcing and vendor consolidation strategy involving AIOps and proprietary AI platforms.

The goal is to free up savings for the client to reinvest in its research and development activities. As you can see from these examples, this was a big sales quarter for ISG in the health sciences sector, both in the U.S. and in Europe. In Asia Pacific, our Q1 revenues of $4.1 million were down $700,000 compared with the prior year. Based on our current pipeline, including public sector work, we expect Q2 revenues to be up 20% sequentially. In Q1, we saw double-digit growth in our consumer and enterprise industry verticals. Key clients in the quarter included IMO and Woolworths. During the quarter, we continued our work on a new, nearly $1 million engagement with a provider of data center services to power the region’s ongoing adoption of AI.

ISG is helping the client build out its core AI capabilities to support its rapid growth plans. Now turning to the broader market and our guidance for Q2. Clients continue to focus on cost optimization and AI investments despite uncertain macro conditions, and this plays to our strengths. We see current demand trends continuing into Q2. With this in mind, for the second quarter, we are targeting revenues of between $62.5 million and $63.5 million and adjusted EBITDA between $8 million and $9 million, which will continue our year-over-year growth and margin expansion. Now, let me turn the call over to Michael A. Sherrick, who will summarize our financial results. Michael?

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Thank you, Mike. Good morning, everyone. Revenue for the first quarter was $61.2 million, up 3% year-over-year. By region, Americas’ revenue was $39.8 million, down 2.9%. Europe delivered revenue of $17.3 million, up 25.3%. Asia Pacific was $4.1 million, down 14.7%. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $8.3 million, up 11.8%, with margin expanding 111 basis points to 13.5%. Operating income was $5 million, up 47.7% year-over-year, resulting in an operating margin of 8.2%. GAAP net income was $2.7 million or $0.05 per fully diluted share, compared with $1.5 million or $0.03 per fully diluted share last year.

Adjusted net income was $4.3 million or $0.09 per fully diluted share, up from $3.7 million or $0.07 per fully diluted share a year ago. Headcount at quarter end was 1,276, essentially flat with year-end. Our consulting utilization was 71.5%, in line with our typical first quarter levels. We ended the quarter with cash of $22.7 million, compared with $28.7 million at the end of the fourth quarter and up $2.6 million year-over-year. For the quarter, net cash used in operations was $700,000, which was in line with our expectations, given normal first quarter seasonality. We continue to expect strong operating cash flow for the remainder of the year.

During the quarter, we paid dividends of $2.2 million and repurchased $2.1 million of stock. Our next quarterly dividend will be paid June 26th to shareholders of record as of June 5th. At quarter end, fully diluted shares outstanding were 50.2 million, and our gross debt-to-EBITDA ratio was just under 1.8 times, down from 1.9 times at December 31, 2025. Our average borrowing rate for the quarter was 5.4%, down 115 basis points year-over-year. Overall, our balance sheet remains solid, providing us with a strong foundation to both operate and invest in the business, especially in our AI initiatives. Mike will now share concluding remarks before we go to Q&A. Mike?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Thank you, Michael. To summarize, ISG is off to a strong start in 2026 with AI acting as a tailwind. Our first quarter results were led 25% growth in Europe and 9% growth in recurring revenues. We delivered our sixth straight quarter of double-digit growth in adjusted EBITDA, up 12% in Q1, with our margins up by more than 100 basis points. We believe ISG is a compelling AI transformation story in the technology research and advisory services market. Not because we are talking about AI, but because AI is already having a positive impact on our revenue, our margins, governance wins, and client demand. Indeed, ISG is uniquely positioned to help clients realize their AI ambitions.

Our unmatched value chain of research, benchmarking, advisory, and governance services is a key competitive advantage for ISG, delivering ROI to our clients and long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you very much for calling in this morning. Now let me turn the session over to the operator for your questions.

Operator: Today’s question and answer session will be conducted electronically. If you’d like to ask a question, you can do so by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you find that your question has been answered and you would like to remove yourself from the queue, you may do so by pressing the pound sign. Again, if you would like to ask a question, you can do so by pressing star 1 on your touch-tone keypad, and we will pause for a moment to allow questions into the queue. Our first question comes from the line of Jacob Mutchler from Noble Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Jacob Mutchler, Analyst, Noble Capital Markets: Good morning. Nice quarter.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Thank you. Good morning, Joe.

Jacob Mutchler, Analyst, Noble Capital Markets: Mike, first one I wanted to ask on the new client, and I don’t know what more color you can provide on that. Maybe, you know, the pipeline there for similar size type of deals. I know that you just mentioned this is the largest one, you know, is the pipeline growing to those type of deals more than, say, $1 million or $2 million deals?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yeah. Thanks, Joe. First of all, yes, first of all, on the major manufacturing company, a very large deal all around AI governance, which is a hot topic with our client base. You know, they have allowed a diversification of the use of different tools on a global basis in a lot of these major enterprises. The question now is, with all the usage and the cost going up, how are we gonna govern this in an enterprise? We have a number of discussions going on and a number of things in our pipeline relative to our governance services, with AI governance being at the top of the list. We expect this to be a very hot area for us over the next couple of years, Joe.

Jacob Mutchler, Analyst, Noble Capital Markets: Okay. Just on the guidance, maybe you could kind of, you know, walk me through. If I look year-over-year, you know, the second quarter last year was $61.6 million, and you were guiding at $62.5 million-$63.5 million. You already talked about, you know, Asia should be up 20%, which is, you know, close to $1 million there. I think you said North America or the Americas should also see some growth. Was there something still in the second quarter numbers last year that would kind of, you know, if we removed that, you know, would show a bigger growth rate for this year? Or are you just being conservative because of the environment out there?

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Joe, it’s Michael. Thanks for the question. I don’t think that there’s no item or individual thing we would point to your point, that drives it in terms of where we are. I think like anything, you know, there’s an uncertain macro environment. We’re still early in May. As always, we wanna be conservative in how we look at things and make sure that, you know, we’re not getting ahead of ourselves.

Jacob Mutchler, Analyst, Noble Capital Markets: Okay, great. Thanks, Ben. I’ll get back in queue.

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Thanks, Joe.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of David Storms with Stonegate. Please go ahead.

David Storms, Analyst, Stonegate: Morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe wanted to start with Europe. You mentioned you had a welcome back customer there. Just curious as to, you know, when you’re looking at your pipeline, are you seeing an increase in welcome back customers, or is this kind of a one-off? I’m sure you guys are always working on that. Maybe any further color there would be great.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yeah. Look, the reference we were referring to, just for definitional purposes, we call a welcome back client someone who has not done work with us in the last 24 months. Call it 2 years. We have a lot of continuous clients. As you know, about 80% of our clients or so are continuous year-over-year. No, I mean, what happens is in different segments, depending on what the environment is and what clients are wanting to move on and take action on, and if they feel like the macro environment is looking a little better, in this case, the examples that I was giving was around, I think, the health sciences areas. You know, it’s really driven by AI, and it’s really driven by the need to accelerate pace.

As you know, in Europe, they’re a little behind the U.S., primarily because the environment over there is a little more constrained because of all the geopolitical and other things going on. They wanna make sure the air is clear. That’s what we’re seeing. We’re seeing that they are now moving at a more rapid pace than they had been. They’re right behind the U.S., but they are behind the U.S. overall, and AI is driving the need to move quicker.

David Storms, Analyst, Stonegate: Understood. I appreciate that. I did wanna circle back to the large client. It sounds like this contract is predicated on a client that’s already been working with AI, and now maybe needs a little more guidance from, you know Maybe if we were having this conversation a year ago, the conversations were more about getting clients more comfortable with AI and learning there. Are you seeing more contracts where you’re coming into an environment where the customer already has some familiarity and now you’re working to professionalize? Do you still see a large number of clients that you’re doing more teaching on, if that question’s asked the right way?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yeah, it’s a good question. I hate to answer it this way, but frankly, it’s both. The specific example, this is a very well-known manufacturing company. They began to put together a strategic AI roadmap over the next 8 years. It was an 8-year roadmap. They were in the early stages of developing the roadmap. They asked us to come in and help them complete the roadmap, and in the process, we ended up with this longer-term contract. I would say it’s equally that and equally that others are beginning the journey. I know it’s hard to believe, but a lot of clients are in the very, very beginning, just like cloud, where they’re late, you know, bloomers. Just like certain companies have never outsourced, believe it or not, in 2026.

There are different companies in different industries, and the pace is different. The consumer market, I’ll use that one as an example, is red hot. Why is it red hot? There’s a lot of pressure on pricing on the consumer. Fuel prices are up. It’s taking away some discretionary spend. The pressure to be able to use AI and optimize costs is increasing on the consumer sector, so that’s a red-hot industry. I mentioned health sciences as a second one. The public sector, we don’t do work at the federal level, but we do work in the state level in the U.S., is also very, very hot.

It varies a little bit, Dave, but I would say we have both sides of that coin that we’re working with clients depending on where they are on their journey. That’s great commentary. I’ll jump back in queue. Thank you. Thanks, Ted.

Operator: Our next question is from the line of Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research. Please go ahead.

Vincent Colicchio, Analyst, Barrington Research: Yeah, good morning, Mike.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Good morning, Vince.

Vincent Colicchio, Analyst, Barrington Research: You just mentioned that you’re seeing some clients new to outsourcing. You know, my question was gonna be, is that happening to a great extent? In other words, is the complexity and shortage of talent and AI expanding, you know, the number of companies you could potentially be working with versus other, you know, recent years?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Good question, Vince. Let me start with the mid-market, we define the mid-market, everybody defines it differently, is under a $10 billion revenue company. Think about it, $1 billion-$10 billion. That is a very sweet spot. Why? Most of them, they all have, of course, CTOs or CIOs, but the depth of experience at those size companies is not near what it is on the, you know, call it the global 1,000 companies. Our ability to go in, especially using Tango as our platform, has been a great door opener, as has the AI Maturity Index, to help them understand the level of maturity that their organization is in. It’s eye-opening to them.

What we’ve been able to do is to penetrate that mid-market where we have never been able to penetrate it because of our pricing scheme before. Now, with AI and the complexity of that, they want to be able to figure out how they can use AI at scale that can change the complexion of their business, and they don’t have that level of talent typically inside their organizations. Yes, it’s been a nice uplift.

Vincent Colicchio, Analyst, Barrington Research: Michael A. Sherrick, what did the acquisitions meet the expectations in the quarter, and what was the contribution?

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Again, if you look, quarter-over-quarter, you know, what we really had this quarter was Aiimi. Nothing really materially year-over-year. It did meet our expectation. We continue to be extremely encouraged and optimistic on that transaction, right? It really is a tip of spear door opener type of offering for us, you know, in the world of AI. Again, we did that one knowing it was a technology and it would be that tip of spear, and we’ve seen that play out. We continue to be very excited with both the offering and specifically the team that we took on from there.

Vincent Colicchio, Analyst, Barrington Research: Michael Connors, in APAC, I wasn’t clear on if you’re seeing the government come around there in Australia?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yeah. What we are seeing is our pipeline now is very strong, including the public sector. That’s why we’re pretty bullish on, I mentioned earlier, we expect to be in the 20% growth sequentially in Asia Pacific. That would make it about flat year-over-year. That is making the turn of the corner, and that’s being driven because the federal spending based on our pipeline, we see picking up. That should begin to display in the second quarter, and that was what I was referring to there, Vince.

Vincent Colicchio, Analyst, Barrington Research: Okay. Nice quarter, gentlemen.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yep. Thanks, Vince.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.

Marc Riddick, Analyst, Sidoti & Company: Hey, good morning, everyone.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Morning, Marc.

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Morning, Marc.

Marc Riddick, Analyst, Sidoti & Company: I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about what you’re seeing as far as catalyst, demand catalyst, maybe from a regulatory standpoint or maybe some other external catalyst as far as the AI activity that you’re seeing more recently?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yeah. The biggest one we’re seeing is in the whole area of kind of risk mitigation, compliance, and governance. This is what I was referencing both on the very large client contract we just won. Overall, there is strong sentiment to find the best way to govern the AI spend and the use of the AI tools in broad, big enterprises. You know, when we do this ISG AI Maturity Index, the way it works is that an individual takes 15 minutes, it’s all digital. They lay out we get the level of kind of maturity that they are at, including the tools that they’re using. Then we can roll it up on an aggregate basis for the organization.

The eye-opener there is that they find out that there are 10, 15, 25 different tools that are being used in their organization globally, and they are a big eye-opener for them. That leads them to, well, how are we going to govern and manage this, exploding use of AI tools and models and so forth. That’s the number 1 thing we are seeing, which is benefiting, you know, our thrust in governance services that we started, you know, as you know, several years ago.

Marc Riddick, Analyst, Sidoti & Company: Right. Right. Excellent. I was wondering, I’m not sure if you mentioned in your prepared remarks, but sort of where are we now as far as recurring as a % of revenue?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yep. Let us get you that number, but I think the recurring Do you have that, Michael?

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yeah, just give me one second.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Give us 1 second. We’ll get you that.

Marc Riddick, Analyst, Sidoti & Company: I think he-

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): I think it’s around 47%, something like that. We’ll get you the exact precise number, but it’s approaching, you know, that 50% mark which we had laid out. We’re getting close.

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): I think we had said it was up 9% versus prior year. It’s about I mean, to be exact, it’s 47%, so we’re approaching that 50% level as Mike just noted.

Marc Riddick, Analyst, Sidoti & Company: Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. That, that was sort of where I was getting to there. I guess last thing from me, I was sort of curious, I know it’s early, but the it was nice to see the introduction of the AI Index like now last month, I guess. was wondering maybe you could talk a little bit about some of the thoughts there or feedback that you’ve received and sort of what your expectations are as far as sort of moving that message forward.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yeah. No, it’s a good question. We launched the ISG AI Index to cover kind of 3 areas: infrastructure as a service, software as a service, and managed services, which are really the 3 largest components of the whole thing. Infrastructure, we use the mark of December 2022, so shortly after the ChatGPT thing came out. We used that as the start point. If you look at it from there through the first quarter of this year, infrastructure as a service is up 160%. Revenue has doubled. Profitability in the companies are up 60%. Their stock’s up 113%. CapEx, and this goes to everything you see, is up 265%. It’s a clear sign that the growth of AI with the hyperscalers.

If you move to software as a service, they too, despite all the noise about the SaaS players, they’re up 53% since that date. Revenue’s up 61% with those aggregate software players. Profitability up 18%. Their stock’s up 39%. The key metric that we use there is what we call current remaining performance obligations or CRPO, and that essentially is the backlog. That’s up 71%. You can see that both of them, despite some of the noise in the market, are performing overall very well. Managed services is up slightly less than 1% since inception. Revenue’s up 8%, profitability’s up 4%, revenue per employee is up 8%, so think about automation. Stock, though, is down a third.

What we see here is that revenue per employee is increasing despite the pressure on growth and margin, I think you should see that turn over the next 12 months in that segment. The feedback we’ve gotten is great. We’re putting some structure around, I’ll call the noise, because our ISG Index, we’ve been doing it for over 90 consecutive quarters. They love the fact that we are now creating this index and can put some structure around what the, you know, the noise is out in the marketplace. That’s where we are on that, Mark.

Marc Riddick, Analyst, Sidoti & Company: It’s very encouraging. Thank you very much.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yep, thank you.

Operator: Your next question is from the line of Gowshihan Sriharan with Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Gowshihan Sriharan, Analyst, Singular Research: Good morning, gentlemen. Can you hear me?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Yes, good morning, Gyoshi.

Gowshihan Sriharan, Analyst, Singular Research: Good. Thank you. I wasn’t sure, this $17 million governance contract, did you, can you give us a sense of the economics? Is that a fixed annual fee over that 8-year contract or what does the margin profile look like?

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Gyoshi, it’s Michael.

Gowshihan Sriharan, Analyst, Singular Research: Yeah.

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Sorry.

Gowshihan Sriharan, Analyst, Singular Research: Go ahead.

Michael A. Sherrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): I couldn’t hear if you had a follow-on to that, but it’s Michael. In contracts like that, specifically, there’s really two components. The first starts with a, you know, a I’ll call it an implementation, as you’re getting everything put in place and ready for the ongoing contract. It’s a fixed fee contract thereafter. That’s how those are typically structured for us.

Gowshihan Sriharan, Analyst, Singular Research: Okay. At what point of the year does it kind of start contributing meaningfully to the revenue line?

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): We, this is Mike. Think about it as roughly $2 million a year. Think about it roughly that way. That should start right toward the tail end of Q2, and we should start to begin to see that, you know, annualized, if you will, starting in Q3.

Gowshihan Sriharan, Analyst, Singular Research: Gotcha. Right. Awesome. Okay.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Thank you, Gyoshi.

Operator: I’m showing no further questions. I’ll turn the call back to Michael Connors for closing remarks.

Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Information Services Group (ISG): Great. Thank you. Look, in closing, let me thank all of our professionals worldwide for their continuing progress and for their collaboration and unwavering dedication to our clients in driving our long-term success. We had the honor of celebrating this week ringing the closing bell at Nasdaq that represented our twentieth anniversary. It’s our people that have a passion for delivering the best advice and support to our clients as they continue on their AI-powered transformations, and I could not be prouder of them. Thanks to all of you on the call for your continued support and confidence in our firm, and have a great day.

Operator: This concludes today’s conference call. You may disconnect at any time. Thank you again for joining us.