Allient Inc. Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Earnings Call - Simplify Program Drives Margin Expansion and Deleveraging
Summary
Allient closed FY2025 with clear progress on its Simplify to Accelerate NOW program, which the company says drove structural margin improvement, record gross margins, and a meaningful reduction in net debt. Q4 revenue rose 17% year over year to $143.4 million, powered by a recovery in industrial demand and a one-time commercial vehicle surge, while full-year cash generation and cost actions materially improved leverage and financial optionality.
The tone is cautiously optimistic. Management is leaning into higher‑value motion controls and power quality for data centers, while flagging familiar risks: uneven macro demand across regions, lumpy defense program timing, and supply chain pressure around magnets and other critical components. Execution on facility realignment, an upcoming data center-focused capacity expansion, and continued working capital discipline are the levers investors should watch in 2026.
Key Takeaways
- Q4 revenue was $143.4 million, up 17% year over year, including 15% organic growth on a constant currency basis.
- Industrial vertical led growth with revenue up 24% in Q4, driven by normalization after an extended automation destocking and continued strength in power quality for data center infrastructure.
- Vehicle revenue jumped 35% in Q4, primarily from a commercial automotive production timing surge that management flags as a one-time pull-in rather than a new run rate.
- Medical rose 9%, aerospace and defense declined 5% due to lumpy program timing and the previously announced M10 Booker cancellation, while distribution increased 11%.
- Gross margin expanded to 32.4% in Q4 (32.8% for FY2025), a record for the company, credited to higher volumes, better mix, and operational efficiencies from the Simplify to Accelerate NOW program.
- Operating income in Q4 increased 76% to $11.4 million, with FY operating income up 46% to $44 million, representing 7.9% of revenue for the year.
- Adjusted EBITDA was $19.0 million in Q4 (13.3% of revenue) and $76.9 million for the full year (13.9%), reflecting 210 basis points of full-year margin expansion.
- Cash flow and balance sheet improvement: record operating cash flow of $56.7 million, total debt down to $180.4 million, net debt down $48.4 million to $139.7 million, and leverage improved to 1.82 times (bank-defined 2.34 times).
- Working capital gains: inventory turns improved to 3.2x from 2.7x, DSO improved to 57 days from 60, and management expects 2026 capex of $10 million to $12 million (2025 capex was $7 million).
- Backlog ended FY2025 at approximately $233 million, with the majority expected to convert within 3 to 9 months and book-to-bill finishing slightly above 1, indicating positive near-term momentum.
- Simplify to Accelerate NOW remains central, with targeted structural savings of $6 million to $7 million for 2025 and ongoing actions like the Dothan facility transition to advanced fabrication and shifted assembly to lower-cost sites.
- Management is prioritizing investments to capture organic growth opportunities, remaining opportunistic on M&A, and continuing to drive cost out rather than signaling immediate shareholder returns.
- Data center power quality is a strategic focus. A facility expansion for that business is on track to be fully operational late Q2 to early Q3 2026, positioned to handle expected demand ramps.
- Supply chain risk remains a meaningful watch item, especially rare earth magnets. Management reports active engagement with government programs and suppliers to regionalize sourcing, but timelines and costs remain uncertain.
- Guidance notes and tax outlook: FY2025 effective tax rate was 23.3%, management expects a 2026 tax rate between 21% and 23%, and will report more formal 2026 guidance at the Q1 call.
- Caveats and macro risks: management acknowledges uneven macro conditions, potential policy and tariff impacts, a soft German industrial outlook, and that some Q4 strength represented timing pull-ins which could depress early 2026 sequential activity.
Full Transcript
Conference Operator, Conference Moderator: Day, welcome to the Allient Inc. fourth quarter fiscal year 2025 financial results. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star and then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Craig Mychajluk, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Craig Mychajluk, Investor Relations, Allient Inc.: Yeah, thank you, and good morning, everyone. We certainly appreciate your time today as well as your interest in Allient. On the call today are Dick Warzala, our Chairman, President, and CEO, and Jim Michaud, our Chief Financial Officer. Dick and Jim will review our fourth quarter and full year 2025 results, provide a strategic and operational update, and share our outlook. We’ll then open the line for questions. As a reminder, our earnings release and accompanied slide presentation are available on our website at allient.com. If you’re following along, please turn to slide 2 for our safe harbor statement. During today’s call, we will make forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated. These risks and factors are outlined in our SEC filings and in the earnings release.
We’ll also discuss certain non-GAAP measures we believe will be useful in evaluating our performance. You should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. We have provided reconciliations of non-GAAP to comparable GAAP measures in the tables accompanying the earnings release as well as the slides. With that, please turn to slide 3, and I’ll turn it over to Dick to begin.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you, Craig. Welcome everyone. We entered 2025 with clear priorities: expanding structural margins, strengthening the balance sheet, and positioning the portfolio around durable secular growth drivers. As we close the year, I am pleased to say we made measurable progress on all three. We delivered a strong fourth quarter and importantly exited 2025 with improving momentum across the business. The fourth quarter reflected several highlights, but it can be summarized by a few themes: improving industrial demand, disciplined execution across the organization, and structural margin expansion driven by our Simplify to Accelerate NOW program. This performance was not only a function of higher volumes, it was operating leverage, it was improved mix, and it was sustained cost discipline translating directly into stronger profitability. We saw improving conditions at our largest vertical, industrial.
A significant automation destocking we have discussed throughout the year appears largely behind us, and ordering patterns are returning to more normalized levels. At the same time, demand for our power quality solutions supporting data center infrastructure remains strong. Vehicle performance was stronger than expected in the quarter, primarily tied to commercial auto production timing. While we do not view that as a structural shift, it contributed to the top line in the period. Medical remained steady and consistent, and aerospace and defense reflected normal program timing dynamics. What we experienced in Q4 was broad participation across the portfolio. That balance across verticals matters. It reinforces diversification of the model and supports the durability of our results. Equally important, the margin expansion we delivered wasn’t simply volume driven.
It reflected better mix when compared with last year’s results, improved cost structure, and continued execution under our Simplify to Accelerate NOW initiative. The operational work we have been doing over the past few years is now clearly embedded in the model. Turning to slide 4 and looking at the full year, 2025 was about strengthening the foundation of the company. We set out a clear objective under our Simplify to Accelerate NOW program: reduce complexity, improve throughput, and strengthen margins in a way that is sustainable. We targeted a set of structural savings in the range of $6 million-$7 million for 2025. While not yet complete, we delivered meaningful progress on that target. These savings are being realized through foot optimization, where we are consolidating overlapping operations and focusing our resources where we have scale and competitive advantage.
Accelerated product development, where we streamlined our process and reduced time to market for our offerings. Lean manufacturing disciplines, where we improved standard work and reduced non-value added time on our shop floors, consistent with best practices that helped cut cost while improving quality and reliability. This is a journey, and it never ends. One example that speaks to all three is the transition of our Dothan facility. We announced this last year as part of our realignment strategy with the plan to focus Dothan on advanced fabrication capabilities, including machining. As a result, we transferred assembly work to facilities where we have complementary capabilities. That effort, while still a work in progress, is expected to drive down costs and reduce complexity across our North American footprint. Overall, we delivered record gross margins for the year. We expanded operating income at a rate well ahead of revenue growth.
We generated record operating cash flow, and we reduced net debt significantly, bringing leverage down to levels that gives us real financial flexibility. The balance sheet today looks very different than it did a year ago, and that matters because it allows us to invest in organic growth, support new program launches, and pursue disciplined capital allocation opportunities from a position of strength. With that, let me turn it over to Jim for a more in-depth review of the financials.
Jim Michaud, Chief Financial Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you, Dick. Good morning, everyone. Turning to slide 5. Fourth quarter revenue increased 17% year-over-year to $143.4 million, including 15% organic growth on a constant currency basis. The growth was driven primarily by strengthening industrial demand, particularly automation and power quality applications, as well as increased commercial automotive shipments within the vehicle market. From a geographic perspective, 50% revenue was generated in the U.S., with the balance coming primarily from Europe, Canada, and Asia Pacific, consistent with our diversified footprint. Let me walk you through performance by major vertical, because that’s where the real story sits. Industrial revenue increased 24% in the quarter. The primary driver was strengthening automation demand as ordering patterns from our largest automation customer returned to more normalized levels following the extended destocking cycle.
In addition, demand for power quality solutions supporting data center infrastructure remained very strong. Those applications continue to benefit from electrification and digital infrastructure investment. Vehicle revenue increased 35%. This was primarily due to increased commercial automotive shipments tied to a transitioning model program. As Dick mentioned, we view this as production schedule timing rather than a new long-term run rate. Construction markets also improved, and powersports conditions appear to have stabilized relative to earlier softness. Medical revenue increased 9%, supported by steady demand for surgical instruments and continued traction in precise motion applications. Aerospace and defense declined 5%, reflecting the lumpy nature of defense and space program shipments, along with the previously announced M10 Booker tank program cancellation. Importantly, underlying defense program activity remains solid. Distribution channel sales increased 11%, although that remains a smaller component of total revenue. Turning to slide six.
Here, we show the composition of our revenue over the trailing 12 months, along with the year-over-year change in each market and the key drivers of that change. This slide really highlights something important about how the business has evolved and what you are seeing in the mix is intentional. Industrial remains our largest vertical, and it’s increasingly anchored by higher value applications. Power quality for data center infrastructure, motion solutions tied to automation, and applications aligned with electrification. That’s where we have been directing engineering focus and capital. Aerospace and defense continues to represent a meaningful and growing contributor. While quarterly shipments can be lumpy, the underlying program activity and pipeline remain solid, and that vertical provides longer cycle visibility. Medical remains steady and consistent. Surgical applications continue to be reliable contributors, and our precision motion capabilities position us well in that space.
Vehicle, while still important, is a smaller percentage of the mix than it was previously. That’s partly market-driven, but it’s also strategic. We have intentionally shifted away from lower margin programs and toward higher value applications across the portfolio. When you step back, the mix today is more margin accretive and better aligned with durable secular growth drivers than it was just a couple of years ago. That evolution matters because it supports the margin expansion and earnings durability we have delivered. On slide 7, gross margin expanded 90 basis points year-over-year to 32.4%. The improvement was driven by higher volumes, favorable mix, and operational efficiencies from our Simplify initiative. Sequentially, gross margin moderated largely due to a higher proportion of vehicle revenue, which carries lower relative margins.
For the full year, gross margin expanded 150 basis points to a record 32.8%. Turning to slide 8 and the drivers behind the margin and operating income expansion, what stands out in 2025 is not just the headline results, but how we’ve achieved them. As Dick outlined, the Simplify to Accelerate NOW program was designed to structurally reduce complexity, improve throughput, and strengthen margins. The operating performance you see here is the financial expression of that work. The structural savings we delivered in 2024 and now 2025 are embedded in the business, and they are showing up directly in leverage and operating income expansion. Realignment costs related to these actions during the year are primarily associated with the Dothan transition. The transition to date has been successful, not just from a cost perspective, but operationally.
We are realizing enhanced manufacturing focus and early elements of the anticipated savings. When you layer these structural improvements with improved volume and mix, the impact on leverage becomes clear. At the operating level, we drove meaningful improvement in expense discipline. We captured upside from higher volumes, while at the same time controlling SG&A, allowing operating income to grow significantly faster than revenue. In the fourth quarter, operating income increased 76% to $11.4 million, or 7.9% of our revenue. For the full year, operating income increased 46% to $44 million, or 7.9% of revenue. Turning to slide nine, you can clearly see how the structural margin expansion and disciplined execution translated into meaningful bottom-line growth. Net income for the quarter more than doubled to $6.4 million, or $0.38 per diluted share.
Adjusted net income was $9.3 million or $0.55 per share. Adjusted EBITDA was $19 million or 13.3% of revenue, up 170 basis points. For the full year, net income was $22 million or $1.32 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was $76.9 million or 13.9% of revenue, representing 210 basis point expansion year-over-year. Our full year effective tax rate was 23.3%. For 2026, we expect our tax rate to be between 21% and 23%. Turning to slide 10. This slide reflects disciplined execution against the three financial priorities we outlined at the beginning of the year. Those priorities were: improving working capital and inventory efficiency, take out structural costs, and reduce debt and strengthen the balance sheet.
Starting with cash generation, we delivered record operating cash flow of $56.7 million for the year, up 35% from the prior year. That level of cash conversion reflects both improved profitability and better working capital management. Inventory discipline was a major focus in 2025. Despite navigating automation normalization and rare earth considerations during the year, we improved inventory turns to 3.2 times compared to 2.7 at the end of 2024. That is a meaningful step forward. We tightened planning processes, aligned production more closely with demand signals, and reduced excess inventory that had built up during the prior cycle. Importantly, we did that while maintaining strong customer service levels. On receivables, day sales outstanding improved to 57 days for the year versus 60 last year. That reflects better collections, stronger billing discipline, and improved customer mix.
When you combine inventory turns improvement with DSO reduction, you see a structurally better working capital profile. Capital expenditures for 2025 were $7 million, with disciplined focus investments tied to customer programs and productivity initiatives. For 2026, we expect capital expenditures in the range of $10 million-$12 million, primarily supporting customer programs and growth initiatives. Slide 10 is really about execution. We said we would improve working capital, we did. We said we would drive structural cost improvements, we did. We said we would re-reduce debt. That shows up clearly on the next slide as the balance sheet story is directly connected to the execution we just discussed. Total debt declined to $180.4 million. Net debt declined to $139.7 million, a $48.4 million reduction year-over-year.
Our leverage ratio improved significantly to 1.82 times from 3.01 at the end of 2024. Our bank-defined leverage ratio ended the year at 2.34, comfortably within covenant levels and providing meaningful headroom. The combination of stronger earnings, improved cash conversion, and disciplined CapEx allowed us to materially deleverage in a single year. That’s important for two reasons. First, it lowers financial risk and reduces interest burden over time. Second, it creates flexibility to invest in organic growth, support new program launches, and evaluate disciplined capital deployment opportunities from a position of strength. When you look at slides 10 and 11 together, they tell a clear story. Operational improvements translated into cash. Cash translated into deleveraging, and deleveraging translated into flexibility. That’s the financial flywheel we’ve been working toward.
With that, if you advance to slide 12, I will now turn the call back over to Dick.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you, Jim. As we moved through the fourth quarter, order trends improved. Automation demand is stabilizing, power quality tied to data center infrastructure remains strong, and our aerospace and defense pipeline continues to provide long-term cycle visibility. Orders were up sequentially and year-over-year, we exited with a book-to-bill ratio slightly above 1. That’s important as it reflects positive momentum as we enter 2026. Backlog ended the year at approximately $233 million, with the majority expected to convert within 3 to 9 months, consistent with our historical patterns. The visibility we have today supports a constructive start to the year. As we look into 2026, we believe we are positioned to build on that momentum. At the same time, we remain realistic. The macro environment is still uneven across certain end markets.
Customer capital spending can move in phases. Policy and tariff considerations remain part of the broader landscape. We continue to monitor developments closely. We will adjust as needed. With respect to the recent Supreme Court ruling and broader trade policy discussions, we are continuing to evaluate any potential implications. As we have discussed previously, we have taken proactive steps over the past several years to diversify our supply base, localize certain sourcing where appropriate, and manage tariff exposure through pricing and operational adjustments. We remain disciplined in how we evaluate these developments. We will adjust as needed. What gives us confidence is what we control. We control our cost structure. It’s structurally better than it was a few years ago. We control working capital discipline. We demonstrated that in 2025.
We control capital allocation, and we strengthened the balance sheet meaningfully over the past year. We continue to align the portfolio around higher value motion controls and power solutions, serving durable secular drivers of electrification, automation, energy efficiency, increased defense spending, and digital infrastructure. These drivers are not short cycle themes. They represent long-term shifts in how energy is generated and used, how systems are automated, and how infrastructure is built. Allient’s technologies are directly aligned with those transitions. We exit 2025 with improved margins, stronger cash flow, and a materially stronger balance sheet. That combination provides flexibility and resilience, and it positions us to execute through varying market conditions. We believe we’re ending 2026 from a position of strength.
We have an excellent opportunity to leverage the foundation we have been building through our Simplify to Accelerate NOW initiatives, simplify our organization, drive out cost, and accelerate growth rates well into the future. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Conference Operator, Conference Moderator: We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you’re using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star and then 2. Our first question comes from Tom Sanano with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Tom Sanano, Analyst, JP Morgan: Hi, good morning, everyone.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Good morning, Tomo.
Tom Sanano, Analyst, JP Morgan: Thank you for taking my questions. Sorry. While the cyclical macro recovery, such as improving ISM, it is expected, Allient’s has clearly driving a structural growth and margin improvement through initiatives like Simplify to Accelerate Now. Looking ahead to 2026, which do you see as the bigger contributor to growth and margin expansions, external tailwinds or your own, like self-help measures? Any more colors on 2026, please? Thank you.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Okay. Let me take your first question. I believe as I understand it is that you’re looking for what are the seculars that do we expect to be generating the largest growth opportunities for us in 2026. Is that correct?
Tom Sanano, Analyst, JP Morgan: I wanna get a more sense about cyclical characteristics of the recovery you’re seeing versus the structural, the themes you see in 2026.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Tom Sanano, I’m sorry. I don’t know whether it’s our line or your line, but you’re breaking up on us, and I’m having a hard time picking up some of the comments or questions.
Tom Sanano, Analyst, JP Morgan: I’m sorry. I meant, could you talk about 2026, the growth of the sales driven by cyclical recovery versus like a structurally items for the revenue side? I wanted to get some color on the margin side as well. Thank you.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Okay. I think I have it here now. Well, first off, yeah, as we talked about here, as we’ve been repositioning our business, and looking at where we see some of the long cycle, longer term, you know, drivers, and we mentioned the data center infrastructure, we do see that continuing. We see, you know, I believe, one of the issues that has been addressed of quite over the last few days here has been about the energy side of it and how were they gonna generate power. It seems like some of the companies are stepping up to do that on their own, which is I think was a major concern. That doesn’t affect us.
You know, we obviously need the power, and as the data center expansion continues, you know, we play a pretty significant role in making sure that that power is being delivered efficiently and effectively, and, you know, eliminating distortion within the grid and so forth. I think we do see that opportunity continuing now into 2026 and into the future. Again, it’s based upon infrastructure, it’s based upon capital projects, and of course, those are subject to the developments as the prime contractors and/or developers determine the right timing for those. Then far as aerospace and defense, we’ve heard let’s call it defense more than aerospace. You know, that is impacted by, you know, many factors.
You know, we will still now, given the war that’s going on in Iran right now, I think it’s gonna take a little bit of time here to settle down for us to figure out how that will have an impact on our business, whether it’s immediately or long term. That’s too soon to call. As far as the other programs go, which we’ve been very actively involved in with some of the key drivers in terms of defense applications, whether it’s drones, whether it’s missile defense and so forth, I mean, we have been a player in those markets for, you know, some time here now, and we do see that continuing.
One thing that’s occurring there is, of course, is the requirement for defense products and, you know, suppliers to be based in North America or the U.S. and that’s definitely plays into an advantage for us as we do have a pretty significant manufacturing base and design engineering team in North America. The other areas that, you know, we see opportunities, of course, is we don’t see medical slowing down. The advent of AI in medical and the use of sophisticated diagnostic tools and again, some of the key areas that we’ve been involved in for many years, we continue to participate, and we’re pretty excited about that. Automation will come. Automation comes in the form of our normal or typical industrial automation.
Even in the, you know, the robotic side of it, sometimes referred to as in exciting areas of humanoids and so forth. Again, it’s another area we participated in and we continue to participate in. We see growth and stabilization there. European markets are... and especially Germany, seems to be remaining a little bit soft, and they’re not predicting any growth for 2026. We’ll see how that shakes out as the year goes along, but that’s the forecast that we’re getting right now, is that the industrial markets in Germany, in fact, may decline this year, which we did. You know, we saw some signs that it was going to improve, but the latest information we’re getting is that that may not be the case. That’s... I think our...
These diversification in many different markets plays well for us. There is a good balance. I mean, we do believe that, you know, the industrial sector will continue to grow because we do have, you know, automation in that sector, as we call it, and also the data center infrastructure is in there as well. We do see that continue to grow, and we see defense growing, whether it’s cycle timing. As Jim had mentioned, you know, the government canceled the M10 Booker program, that’s a realignment of how they see the priorities on the battlefield going forward, and the challenges that are being faced. As far as margins, the margins is a big factor based upon mix for us.
I can tell you that our focus and emphasis on new applications has been in the markets and will continue to be, and our investments will be made in the markets where the margins are above our average. That’s been our focus and will continue to be our focus, and capital spending will align with that. I think, you know, that we are in pretty good shape. Our book-to-bill ratio is improving, and that’s one of the things that we pay close attention to in this to determine whether or not, you know, we have converted some of the opportunities we’re working on and it’s showing up in bookings that will later show up in shipments. This long-winded answer, I hope I’ve covered them all.
If not, you can, you know, go ahead and ask me to add to that if necessary.
Tom Sanano, Analyst, JP Morgan: Thank you. Very helpful, Vic. Thank you. Just follow up on a capital allocation standpoint. Congrats on leverage, improved and strong cash flow generations. How would you prioritizing capital allocations for 2026 among organic growth, investment, M&A, and shareholder returns, please?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Sure. I would say to you that, again, going into 2026, I mean, we feel that our pipeline of opportunities is quite strong. Our investments that we make will be to support what we have control over and in hand right now, which is, you know, some significant opportunities and that we will need to invest to realize some of those opportunities. That’s gonna be the majority of the investment that we see going forward. I would also say to you that, you know, we are paying very close attention there in terms of the pipeline of acquisitions. We certainly have had certain areas that we won’t discuss on the call here that we’re paying close attention to.
If the opportunity does arise, I mean, we think we’re well-positioned to take advantage of that and to move forward with it. I think Simplify to Accelerate NOW initiative, I just wanna make it clear, we’re not done. We see, you know, that we started, we had several initiatives that were well underway and executed quite successfully, but there are certain things were not completed in 2025 that are carrying into 2026, and we will have the discipline to get them done and drive costs out. We also see that we have other opportunities, and when we look at our infrastructure and our footprint and so forth, to continue to drive costs out to become more, you know, efficient in the way we do things. That’s not ending. That will continue.
It’s not like we did a mad push for a couple of years, and it’s all, it’s all completed. It’s not. There’s more opportunity ahead of us here. 2026 will not be one that we just sit back and say, "Okay, let’s just take a deep breath and look at what we did and, you know, move on from here." We’re gonna be aggressively going after some additional opportunities to improve our cost base, and they’re there.
Tom Sanano, Analyst, JP Morgan: That’s very helpful as well. Thank you very much. That’s all from me.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you, Tomo.
Conference Operator, Conference Moderator: The next question comes from Greg Palm with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.
Greg Palm, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Thanks. Morning, everybody. Congrats on a good way to finish 2025.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you, Greg.
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: Appreciate it, Greg.
Greg Palm, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: I don’t remember the last time you actually grew revenues sequentially from Q3 to Q4. Maybe it’s happened once or twice, but I understand maybe a little bit was due to some outsized, you know, growth in commercial vehicle, which you talked about. Just broadly speaking, you know, what else drove the better than expected seasonality that you’d normally see? Just to be clear, what kind of trends have you seen so far in Q1?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Yeah. Great question, Greg. Because it was abnormal, you’re absolutely correct. You followed us a long time and, you know, it’s, as we say, going into Q4, for is always some unknowns. We’ve seen years where, you know, demand was pent up, supply chain crisis, things like that, which caused some, you know, irregularities in the normal cyclical patterns that we would see during the year. We did, in fact, have a few, I’ll call them pull-ins that we hadn’t anticipated. It did elevate Q4 sales to a certain extent. One that we mentioned in commercial, the commercial vehicle side of it, we don’t see that having...
You know, that was a one-time surge based upon some demand that was sitting out there and we see, you know, returning to normal. In a couple other areas, there were a few that surprises, I’ll call them, and I won’t mention in detail what they were, but they were, you know, pulling in product and then as we turned the year, we saw that that was reflected in a little bit lower demand in the first quarter. There were some offsets there that, you know, we’re gonna have to we’ll be addressing and see as it’s still early, of course, but see how that lands.
That is a little bit unusual, and thank you for pointing it out because there were, I’ll just say there were 3 different drivers of that, and 1 was a 1-time, which will reduce to normal. The other 2, we did see a little bit of reduction after they were pulled ahead, as we started the year. Nothing that we see that will change normal run rates on an annual basis. It was just unusual.
Greg Palm, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Just You know, leaving this aside, what type of sort of demand, are you seeing right now just across your markets? I mean, any change? I know things sort of strengthened as we went through 2025, but any strength? Just curious, as you look at what’s occurred over the last week, what kind of, you know, risks or even opportunities could that bring about this year?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Sure. I mean, Our order inputs seem to be coming in quite well, and we saw some improvement through the year. You know, as you mentioned, for us, we watch that very closely because that’s obviously an indicator of what we’re gonna see in terms of converting it into shipments. That’s encouraging. We see some of, you know, that continuing to flow in nicely. As far as what’s happened in the last week, I mean, of course, there’s no surprise, no, I guess, that in saying that we’re the defense side of the business, and we certainly do supply products that are being utilized right now.
how that converts into orders, you know, we were surprised when they were heavily consumed and we didn’t see production orders happening as fast as we would have expected, which indicated there was a big stockpile. We think the stockpile had been chewed up. We saw some return to, you know, starting to ship. Again, for some defense-related products. If you just ask for what our gut feel is that, you know, there will need to be an increase in certain, certainly some of the products that, we deliver to do some replenishment. What the total amount is, the impact is, hard for me to say and hard for us to say, you know, I’m sure we’ll start seeing some of that, you know, fairly soon.
Greg Palm, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: I know you mentioned drones, and that’s an opportunity that you’ve called out a little bit more recently. Are you able to share with us any traction that you’re seeing just in terms of what the opportunity set that might be emerging there?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Sure. I, you know, our company is well regarded and well respected for, you know, for high performance solutions, custom engineering and so forth. I’d say, you know, our activity in that market had been primarily in that space, and it accelerated. It certainly accelerated as far as the pipeline of opportunities go, the prototyping that we’re doing, the quoting that we’re doing. But it also seems to be expanding into, you know, the class one or group one, whatever way you wanna describe it, devices. You know, it’s caught our attention and one of the areas of opportunity for us that we see is that we know how to produce product and volume.
We have one of the benefits that we enjoy based upon, you know, having a certain percentage of our business, as we’ve stated in the past, we like to keep it in the single digits of automotive, we do know how to produce higher volume solutions cost competitively and with the use of automation. I see it very encouraging, and I see it as a real opportunity for us to take our know-how that we have gained and developed over the years and to redeploy it into some of these other areas. While they’re, you know, the pricing and the margins may not necessarily be the same as the, you know, the higher performance, custom engineered products.
Certainly, the volumes do give you the opportunity to, you know, from a volume standpoint and from an operating margin standpoint to be incremental to our business. That’s an area that we see. It’s, you know, the shift to North America, you know, has created a certainly an increase in inquiries. As I said, we’ve been in the business in different applications. We see our technology base that we have in electronics and controls and motors and so forth, in light weighting and composites. It definitely does give us an opportunity here to expand that. We’re pretty excited about it.
Greg Palm, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Okay, great. I guess just last one. I recall last year you announced a facility expansion where you’re doing a bulk of the data center work, and I’m curious what the status is of that. Do you feel like you have, you know, adequate capacity, you know, as that’s done or once it’s done to capitalize? What are you seeing in terms of the opportunity set there?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Yes. To answer your question, it’s coming along extremely well. It’ll be, you know, late 2nd quarter, early 3rd quarter when it’s fully operational. Timing couldn’t have been better. That’s all I can say. Timing couldn’t have been better. The opportunities we’re seeing and the fact that we had addressed it in advance to expand our capabilities and our, you know, our footprint, were definitely fortuitous here as the, as the demands of the market continue to go up. I think it’ll start to unfold here later in the year. You’ll start to see some pretty significant increases in volume in that area, and our timing was good.
Greg Palm, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Okay, perfect. Appreciate all the color. Thanks.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you, Greg.
Conference Operator, Conference Moderator: The next question comes from Max Michaelis with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Max Michaelis, Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just wanna kinda go back to the data center opportunity. From your comments here in the Q&A and then prepared remarks, it sounds like it’d be safe to say you expect the data center opportunity to accelerate in 2026 over 2025 in terms of growth rate. Is that correct?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Yes, we do. What I would say to you is that definitely the opportunities are there. As Greg asked the previous question, you know, about the expansion to our facility, our main facility, that was, you know, underway and last year was approved and is, you know, reaching the point of completion. That’s critical for us to be able to handle the increased demand that we expect to see. I will say to you that, you know, there was an acceleration into last year of some of the, you know, products that we produce and accelerated deliveries. You know, we’re gonna have to pay. As you look at us and pay close attention to, I mean, the order input rates and what we see there, because it’s not, it’s not a smooth, you know, incrementally improving business.
It’s definitely. You can see some fairly substantial jumps and opportunities and timing of orders and when the demand and shipments are going to occur. You know, it’s not just gonna be a straight line here. It’s gonna be. We’ll see that perhaps, you know, in the third and fourth quarters of this year where you’ll see some ramping.
Max Michaelis, Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets: Is this growth primarily driven by new contract wins with new customers, or kind of a mix between expanding wallet share with or existing customers?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: The market itself is expanding, and we’re, you know, we’ve talked in the past about some of our capabilities that put us in a very nice competitive position in the market, and I think that that’s definitely driving it. There’s market expansion and, you know, the technology we have to support and service that is also being recognized and, you know, accelerating some of those opportunities for us as well. I don’t wanna, you know. You guys are fairly new, and I appreciate you joining us as an analyst. In the past, we talked about an acquisition that we did in Wisconsin that gave us a capability and a manufacturing capability and footprint in Mexico.
We’ve been leveraging that to a great extent here and helping us accelerate our ability, you know, to meet those demands. It has proven to be, you know, to be very helpful for us as we’ve been addressing some of those. It’s been, you know, our capability, our production capability, the expansion that we’re doing to continue to improve upon that, as well as our technology, which gives us a nice competitive edge in the marketplace. I’m not saying we’re alone, but we clearly have, you know, a product that is recognized as high-performing and, you know, and very cost-effective.
Max Michaelis, Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets: Okay. Then last one from me. With the M10 Booker program coming to an end, I mean, is there any other programs you can share with us, kinda give us an idea where you guys expect to head next, or is it something you can’t share?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: No, I’d rather not share. Sure, we could share, but defense programs, as we found out with M10 Booker, that was not a one-year program. That was a six, seven-year program, you know. If you look at it and say there’s logic behind it, what’s happening, and as the battlefield’s transitioning here, the utilization of drones, the utilization of missiles, less, you know, boots on the ground. Booker was a larger vehicle. It’s not gonna go away, you know, itself or the need for those larger vehicles and boots on the ground in some applications or some arenas. What we will see is we see a shift towards smaller, more agile, more autonomous vehicles and, you know, we’re positioned as well on those.
One of the things just, you know, for us to get the message out, as we’ve acquired companies in the past, you know, we looked at more of a fully integrated solution, and we do provide some pretty significant advantages there, in that we can handle the electrification, we can handle actuation. We’ve got motors, we’ve got controls, we’ve got drives, we’ve got IO, and we have light-weighting composites. Those composites are used quite extensively. Composites aren’t just for I mentioned light-weighting, but there are other reasons you use light-weighting. Structural integrity or improved strength, EMI protection, as well as light-weighting to make them more efficient as you move towards whether it’s electric or hybrid vehicles to improve, you know, battery life and so forth.
I would say to you that, again, we are in quite a unique position to be able to offer all of that to some of the prime contractors. In addition to one of the things where the Department of Defense is pushing really hard now, I mean, accelerated development, you know. These long design-in cycle times, like a six, seven-year Booker program, and then canceling at the end, it’s the speed of play is gonna be absolutely critical. That’s one of the things where if you have products that are already being utilized in other markets that you can leverage, that gives you, again, a little bit of a competitive advantage. They’re vehicles. In many cases, they’re vehicles. Since been very strong in the vehicle market with some of our products, we’re able to leverage those.
COTS, commercial off-the-shelf products, are critical. We can leverage those, and we can, you know, again, apply engineering and modifications to fit them for purpose, whether it’s more ruggedized, whether it’s more environmental, lighter, higher performance, and so forth. We’re very excited about it, and we’ve made an investment and, you know, you haven’t and we haven’t seen the returns on those investments yet, but we’re highly confident that we’re positioning ourselves well here for the future.
Max Michaelis, Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets: Awesome. Thanks.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you.
Conference Operator, Conference Moderator: Again, if you have any questions, please press star, please press star and then 1. Our next question comes from Ted Jackson with Northland Securities. Please go ahead.
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: Thanks very much. You guys sound so optimistic. It’s really infectious.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Thank you, Ted.
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: I have a couple of questions. Dick, on the domestication of work, you know, and its drive for you. You know, you’ve been dancing around that, you know, and this whole thing with the NDAA, there’s kind of 2 buckets to, you know, bringing, you know, this stuff back into the country, and 1 is the actual manufacturing, and the other is the supply chain. You know, I think, you know, for Allient, you know, the manufacturing bucket is pretty straightforward. Is there work that you need to do on supply chain to bring anything into compliance with NDAA by the time it becomes, you know, fully into effect in January?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: A very good question. The answer is. There’s always gonna be work to be done there. There’s no quick answers to some of the, you know, rare earth minerals and materials that are being utilized in some of the higher performing products here. You’re 100% correct. I mean, we have the capacity and the capability to produce in North America. We’ve got ample capacity. Some of the work that we have been doing over the past few years that we’ve talked about, sir, facility rationalization, and it’s there, and it’s to our advantage. We have, you know, about 1.2 million square feet of manufacturing space within the company, and in North America, a substantial portion of that.
We’ve freed up a significant amount of space here that we can redeploy, you know, if there is a quick demand and a ramp-up for certain initiatives that may be undertaken. Supply chain is another challenge. We’ve been hot and heavy on it and working on it. We have a team that’s on it. I cannot sit here and tell you that, you know, it’s completely solved. You know, we’re subject to other governments and other policies and that they may impose. We’ve been working hard to minimize the impact, to solidify supply chain sources, but some of that ramp-up has not been as quick as we would have liked to have seen it or the government would have liked to have seen it.
There’s clearly gonna have to be. The government’s gonna have to look at that and really decide, you know, there’s a desire and there’s a reality, and whether the two meet. I think, you know, we’ll be working through some of that this year. It’s an excellent question. It’s something that, you know, we’re on top of. We’re doing everything we can possibly do to resource. We were already started before some of this had happened for regionalization of supply chain. Had nothing to do with tariffs and duties and, you know, restrictions and all of that. It was more of a logical business decision, so we were pretty well prepared. You know, on the other hand, you know, we cannot control, you know, when some of the other factors that come into play could impact us.
Jim, do you have anything you want to add to that?
Jim Michaud, Chief Financial Officer, Allient Inc.: Yeah. What I would tell you, Ted, this is just really dovetailing what Dick just mentioned. You know, the feds are really investing billions of dollars in a number of companies here in the U.S. Obviously, you know, we’ve been in contact with all of them. As Dick just mentioned, it’s gonna take time, you know, for all of the supply chain in and around, you know, the rare earths and the, you know, processing of materials and so forth to evolve. I don’t think it’s gonna all happen when we hit January first. I can tell you know, we have teams here that are working diligently with a variety of different suppliers.
You know, we’re setting the foundation for us to, you know, partner with these companies that the government is investing in.
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: I didn’t want to get into magnets, but let’s just keep on. I’m gonna jump over there. On the, the main issue for you on the supply chain side is rare earth around magnets. I mean, everyone has that problem. I have to believe that the government is well aware of that. I mean, do you have any dialogue with the government? Do they understand that, you know, at some level, you have to be practical, or are you just, you know, saying that yourself?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: No. As Jim, Ted, as Jim mentioned, he says that we’ve been in close contact with the government and the key officials in the government, working hand in hand. Working hand in hand to. That’s why I said to you know, at some point in time, you know, reality and the desire and there’s a push, there’s also reality of the timing of when all of this could occur. I can just tell you this. We’re hand in hand. We’re in there. We’re working with, you know, the identified sources that are being supported and invested in. Okay? We’re not letting up on it. We’re not, you know, stopping there.
It’s a continuous effort to make sure that we’re working all the angles as well as staying very close to the key government officials and activities that are being undertaken right now.
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: Beyond magnets, is there any other, you know, you know, critical kind of components or parts that you’ve had to go out and resource or need to resource to move into compliance?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Yes, to answer your question, there’s other components, but they’re not as complicated or as difficult to resource. I mean, it’s a cost factor more than anything. Something else that does impact that as well, you know. You know, without getting into all the details of the different components that we’re seeing, you are seeing certain supply shortages in, you know, pockets of areas, even electronic components. You see some things popping up based upon demand in other areas that are occurring. They’re stressing the supply chain side of it. To answer your question, yes, there are other components that are key that, you know, if you’re talking about motors, for a motor to function, whether it’s laminated steel, whether it’s bearings, you know, there are alternatives. The alternatives may be more costly, but there are alternatives.
Magnets are a little bit unique in themselves, so highlighting the magnet side of it is important. And the others are there but, you know, they get impacted by based on other factors, you know.
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: Anyway, it sounds like it’ll just be a topic for discussion every quarter. As you kind of progress through it, and you’re not the only one. I mean, it’s so many different companies. I’m just shifting over to kinda the commercial vehicle market and the fourth quarter. You know, you had like a pig in the python with you with regards to the fourth quarter. I guess what I would want to ask on that is, one, is if you could kinda quantify it a bit to help us, you know, kinda realign, like, how our first quarter will look.
You know what I’m saying, ’cause you typically have some seasonality from fourth to first just to make sure that we, you know, you know, You know, I think it would just be helpful for all analysts in terms of just getting their 2026 numbers done. On a more macro level, you know, I mean, the commercial vehicle market is definitely, I mean, well, I wouldn’t say definitely, but it seems to me is very much on a rebound. You know, you’ve seen a pickup in freight rates. You know, if you listen to, like, PACCAR and Volvo and all the Class 8 guys, you know, starting in November, they saw order activity bookings pick up substantially. It continued through January. I’ve talked to some of their suppliers. It continued through February.
You know, you’re gonna see a lot of that translate over into an improved demand environment probably when we get to the back half of 2026, assuming that this continues, and it sets up well for 2027. Can you talk a little bit about what things that you are supplying into that market and like how you see that market playing out as we roll through the year and through 2027?
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Okay, is your question about what we supply into the commercial automotive, or what do we supply?
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: Yeah.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: into the truck and construction, or all of them?
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: I guess you could say all of them. I mean, you know, I was trying not to get too granular, but I’m always interested in more than less. I’m American.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Okay. What I will say to you is this. Yes, we did see and we can echo the fact that we did see some improvements. When we talk about vehicle, and thanks for bringing it up because many times people have their own definition of what’s vehicle. Our definition of vehicle is commercial automotive, bus, construction, marine, agricultural, truck, and rail. That’s our vehicle. That’s what we consider vehicle. So we have to continually remind people when we talk about vehicle. And also, actually we do have powersports in there. And when we talk about vehicle, you know, don’t get too wrapped up in thinking of us as an automotive company. We’ve mentioned we have a target to keep that in single digits.
The major reason for that is it’s a long lead time design and cycle time, it’s very cost competitive, and it’s heavily capital intensive. We’ve chosen to take, you know, and invest our money in other areas. We do see differences in the, and I’ve mentioned to you before that powersports, you know, has become automotive-like, commercial automotive-like. Not to the same extent, but it has, you know, gone there. We did see increases in pretty much across the board. The impact of the one-time effect of the fourth quarter that you could see going forward, I would tell you about two and a half million.
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: Okay.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: In fourth quarter. As far as the applications go, when you get into agricultural, construction, and so forth, we’re in several applications, you know, different types of actuators and so forth. One of the key elements fundamentally that we’re in in pretty much across the board in vehicles is steering applications. It’s agnostic to whether it’s gas or or, you know, petrol or whether it’s electrification. We can be utilized in each. We’re also involved in electrohydraulics for some of the larger vehicles, again, primarily in steering area. We have a great expertise in steering. You know, and that’s kinda where we focus our efforts, not just in, you know, that vehicle, but also in some of the industrial applications as well. Okay? Does that help you?
Ted Jackson, Analyst, Northland Securities: That does. I know we’re at kinda timeline, so I’ll stop. Thanks again.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Okay. Thank you, Ted. Thank you, everyone. I think if there’s no more questions, which I believe there aren’t. Operator, can you confirm that?
Conference Operator, Conference Moderator: Yeah. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.
Dick Warzala, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Allient Inc.: Well, thank you everyone for joining us on today’s call and for your interest in Allient. We will be participating in the J.P. Morgan Industrials Conference in Washington, D.C. on March seventeenth. As always, please feel free to reach out to us at any time, and we look forward to talking to you all again after our first quarter 2026 results. Have a great day, and that’ll conclude the call, operator.
Conference Operator, Conference Moderator: The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.